女友曾得過菜花 - 成人話題討論

By Daph Bay
at 2013-03-21T03:14
at 2013-03-21T03:14
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簡單說就是: 你想跟她上床,但又怕得菜花
就算戴上保險套,陰莖根部等套不到的地方,還是可能會因為摩擦而傳染
比較保險的方法是帶她去做DNA檢測
用篩具刷一刷就能檢測是否還有病毒存在
為了避免廣告嫌疑,請自行google相關的醫院、診所
同時你也去打個HPV疫苗,疫苗是還沒感染才有效,已經感染就別浪費錢
確定她已經沒病毒,你也打了疫苗,這樣你還擔心的話,勸你還是早點分手
省得整天擔心,總有一天你會擔心她的內褲會害你感染
菜花是否能痊癒,當然是可以痊癒
HPV分成很多型,70%的常人身上可以採得HPV
正常情況下,人體大約1~2年可自行排出病毒
當然,這是指沒有病灶的情況,有病灶的話幾乎是不可能自然痊癒
做治療的主要目的是破壞病灶,消除疣體
至於要看哪一科,基本上請看皮膚科
不是說泌尿科或婦科不好,而是這是皮膚科的專業領域
且皮膚科可進行冷凍、電燒、雷射,要切片檢查也很方便
筆者認為電燒副作用大,復發率高,還得麻醉,並不是很推的方法
冷凍治療不用麻醉,隨到隨做,回家不影響洗澡作息
如果疣長在肛門裡,請掛大腸直腸科,最為專業,設備也齊全
在此順便補充一些菜花的相關資訊:
菜花即「生殖器疣」,正式的名稱為「尖圭濕疣」,是病毒疣的一種
病毒疣是由人類乳突病毒(HPV)引起,長在手指、腳趾、手掌、腳掌稱為尋常疣
長在腳底稱為足部疣,表面較為平滑,但常較深,易與雞眼搞混
長在臉部及手背,呈現扁平小丘疹,稱為扁平疣
各位在網路上google到的圖片,大多是像花椰菜一樣的疣體
其實不用太過恐慌,要長到那樣的程度須要蠻久的時間,在此之前你早就受不了求醫了
一般初期的癥狀是凸起的小疹子,有點像小米粒,剛開始可能是肉色
之後顏色可能會轉深、轉為扁平狀
生殖器疣與一般皮脂腺增生、陰莖珍珠狀丘疹最大不同在於
它會不斷增生,且會與其他病灶融合成更大的疣
一般來說潛伏期1~3個月,一旦發作,通常是呈現區域性的生長
也就是較少只單獨長出一顆,就算一開始只有一顆,過不了幾週附近就會冒出其他疣體
初期確定方法有幾種:1.切片 2.DNA檢定 3.醋酸白試驗 4.肉眼辨認 5.抽血
切片得麻醉、動刀、縫合
DNA檢定快速方便,但費用約1200~1500元
醋酸白基本上不建議在家自己試驗,因為一般人不具醫療專業,就算測試出疣體發白
還是會懷疑自己是否誤判,最後還是要就醫,不如就乾脆的求助醫生
要做檢驗也是在醫生指示下做比較有保障
肉眼辨認只適用在生長到一定程度的疣體
它會呈現顆粒狀立體堆疊,也就是大顆粒上面長出小顆粒,不斷增生
但初期可能只是肉色小突起物,為求慎重,不建議只用肉眼判斷
至於抽血檢驗,那是檢查 CMV AbIgG. CMV AbIgA.
並配合抽血檢查人類乳突病毒(HPV DNA基因型檢測)
一般門診不一定可做相關檢查,請詢問醫生或請診所代送外檢單位
抽血檢驗必須自費,費用不便宜,還不如做切片檢查(健保有給付)
面對疣體,或是疑似疣體,請千萬不要去摳、掐、切、割、剪它
一旦流血或形成傷口,可能會使感染範圍擴大
不要有鴕鳥心態,以為把它弄掉就不會長出來
因為要破壞病灶,就得一次性全面破壞,冷凍療法就是一種瞬間破壞病毒疣體的方法
光是用指甲掐掉、剪刀剪掉,是無法深入到皮膚裡面去破壞病毒的
所以有疑慮,最好還是直接就醫,別感到羞恥或慚愧,醫生看過的鳥絕對比你多太多
通常去皮膚科看診,醫生會詢問你是否願意一併做HIV檢驗(就是俗稱的愛滋)
之所以會這樣問,是因為生殖器疣主要是性接觸傳染,既然如此,也可能感染到其他的病
所以才會問是否要順便驗HIV和梅毒、淋病,這是政府規定醫生得詢問
當然你可以拒絕檢驗,然後自己去做匿名篩檢,但你拒絕檢驗會留下記錄
確定感染,一般會建議採用冷凍治療,約1~2週做一次
小疣體建議至少做2次,大型一點的疣體(直徑約0.5~0.8cm)起碼要做個3~4次
想要少做幾次,做冷凍的時候強度要夠
有些治療師,液態氮噴槍點放點放,噴個3次就算完成,每次看了都讓我搖頭
要做的到位,噴槍一次最好是噴1~1.5秒,才有足夠的強度深入皮膚裡面,重複噴個4~5次
治療的時候,建議是先用油性筆把病灶標明
然後自備個牙籤或牙線棒,直接向治療師指明須要治療的疣體
以免翻來覆去找病灶,脫著褲子在女治療師面前撥來撥去,其實有點尷尬
這樣做起治療迅速又確實,而且不會漏做,一旦漏做就意味了你得多跑兩趟診所
(一次治療,一次複診)
疣的周圍也要做治療,這是很容易忽略的地方,往往疣好了,但周圍又冒出來
治療最讓一般人難受的不是疼痛,冷凍治療其實不太痛,除非是做到超高強度
才有可能腫的跟1元硬幣一樣大,這種才真的會讓人痛到不想走路
最讓人煎熬的就是反覆治療、複診、復發、治療、複診
對此也只能夠耐心以對,因為HPV不是什麼絕症,也不是無法可治
最糟糕就是復發之後乾脆自暴自棄
或是擦藥不確實,常會漏擦,或是看到病灶消失就立刻停藥
對於有經驗的病患,復發初期其實可以居家治療,不一定要跑醫院
要消除疣體可使用含有 Podophyllotoxin 成分的藥膏
為了避免廣告嫌疑,請自行詢問醫生或上網查詢
這類的藥膏原理是抑制病毒感染的細胞進行有絲分裂
一個療程是一週擦3次,休息4天
通常比較小的病灶,進行兩次療程即可消除
第一次療程做完,可能疣體還是一樣沒改變,請耐心再進行1~2次療程
正常情況下疣體會慢慢變小,然後消失,為了保險起見,可多做一次療程
如果疣太大的話,光擦藥是很難消除,還是以冷凍等物理方式消除較實際
但這只是治標,不是治本
治本之道是讓身體免疫系統自行偵測出HPV病毒感染細胞
目前主流方法是使用含有 imiquimod 成分的藥膏
但這個方法須要較長的療程,不建議當做主要的療法
最好是先破壞疣體,然後再施以 imiquimod 培養免疫系統抵抗力
(含有 imiquimod 的藥,原廠售價很貴,一小小包250公絲要價400元左右
經濟能力無法負擔的人,可考慮使用學名藥,一大條約250有找
相關藥品請自行詢問醫生或上網查,想查哪裡買,問廠商業務哪裡有鋪貨最快
但還是建議在醫生指示下使用)
坊間有所謂的口服增強HPV抵抗力的藥
雖然部分醫生認為根據國外文獻指出,該方法確實有一定的效力
相關的藥物要持續吃的話,也是不小的開支,對此筆者是持保留態度
口服藥物或許可增加免疫系統抵抗力
但已經長到一定程度的疣,光吃藥是沒用的
最後總結一下,懷疑是否感染的,請去做篩檢
確定沒感染的,可自費注射疫苗(數萬元),或是注意性行為安全
已經感染的,請務必有耐心,可採用物理治療、免疫調節法等多管齊下治療
這不是什麼絕症,也不是世界末日,最糟糕就是鴕鳥心態、消極面對
等到DNA檢測不出病毒,事實上就是痊癒了
ps.請勿來信要求診療,請自行至皮膚科掛號
筆者是無照密醫,診療費很貴的
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就算戴上保險套,陰莖根部等套不到的地方,還是可能會因為摩擦而傳染
比較保險的方法是帶她去做DNA檢測
用篩具刷一刷就能檢測是否還有病毒存在
為了避免廣告嫌疑,請自行google相關的醫院、診所
同時你也去打個HPV疫苗,疫苗是還沒感染才有效,已經感染就別浪費錢
確定她已經沒病毒,你也打了疫苗,這樣你還擔心的話,勸你還是早點分手
省得整天擔心,總有一天你會擔心她的內褲會害你感染
菜花是否能痊癒,當然是可以痊癒
HPV分成很多型,70%的常人身上可以採得HPV
正常情況下,人體大約1~2年可自行排出病毒
當然,這是指沒有病灶的情況,有病灶的話幾乎是不可能自然痊癒
做治療的主要目的是破壞病灶,消除疣體
至於要看哪一科,基本上請看皮膚科
不是說泌尿科或婦科不好,而是這是皮膚科的專業領域
且皮膚科可進行冷凍、電燒、雷射,要切片檢查也很方便
筆者認為電燒副作用大,復發率高,還得麻醉,並不是很推的方法
冷凍治療不用麻醉,隨到隨做,回家不影響洗澡作息
如果疣長在肛門裡,請掛大腸直腸科,最為專業,設備也齊全
在此順便補充一些菜花的相關資訊:
菜花即「生殖器疣」,正式的名稱為「尖圭濕疣」,是病毒疣的一種
病毒疣是由人類乳突病毒(HPV)引起,長在手指、腳趾、手掌、腳掌稱為尋常疣
長在腳底稱為足部疣,表面較為平滑,但常較深,易與雞眼搞混
長在臉部及手背,呈現扁平小丘疹,稱為扁平疣
各位在網路上google到的圖片,大多是像花椰菜一樣的疣體
其實不用太過恐慌,要長到那樣的程度須要蠻久的時間,在此之前你早就受不了求醫了
一般初期的癥狀是凸起的小疹子,有點像小米粒,剛開始可能是肉色
之後顏色可能會轉深、轉為扁平狀
生殖器疣與一般皮脂腺增生、陰莖珍珠狀丘疹最大不同在於
它會不斷增生,且會與其他病灶融合成更大的疣
一般來說潛伏期1~3個月,一旦發作,通常是呈現區域性的生長
也就是較少只單獨長出一顆,就算一開始只有一顆,過不了幾週附近就會冒出其他疣體
初期確定方法有幾種:1.切片 2.DNA檢定 3.醋酸白試驗 4.肉眼辨認 5.抽血
切片得麻醉、動刀、縫合
DNA檢定快速方便,但費用約1200~1500元
醋酸白基本上不建議在家自己試驗,因為一般人不具醫療專業,就算測試出疣體發白
還是會懷疑自己是否誤判,最後還是要就醫,不如就乾脆的求助醫生
要做檢驗也是在醫生指示下做比較有保障
肉眼辨認只適用在生長到一定程度的疣體
它會呈現顆粒狀立體堆疊,也就是大顆粒上面長出小顆粒,不斷增生
但初期可能只是肉色小突起物,為求慎重,不建議只用肉眼判斷
至於抽血檢驗,那是檢查 CMV AbIgG. CMV AbIgA.
並配合抽血檢查人類乳突病毒(HPV DNA基因型檢測)
一般門診不一定可做相關檢查,請詢問醫生或請診所代送外檢單位
抽血檢驗必須自費,費用不便宜,還不如做切片檢查(健保有給付)
面對疣體,或是疑似疣體,請千萬不要去摳、掐、切、割、剪它
一旦流血或形成傷口,可能會使感染範圍擴大
不要有鴕鳥心態,以為把它弄掉就不會長出來
因為要破壞病灶,就得一次性全面破壞,冷凍療法就是一種瞬間破壞病毒疣體的方法
光是用指甲掐掉、剪刀剪掉,是無法深入到皮膚裡面去破壞病毒的
所以有疑慮,最好還是直接就醫,別感到羞恥或慚愧,醫生看過的鳥絕對比你多太多
通常去皮膚科看診,醫生會詢問你是否願意一併做HIV檢驗(就是俗稱的愛滋)
之所以會這樣問,是因為生殖器疣主要是性接觸傳染,既然如此,也可能感染到其他的病
所以才會問是否要順便驗HIV和梅毒、淋病,這是政府規定醫生得詢問
當然你可以拒絕檢驗,然後自己去做匿名篩檢,但你拒絕檢驗會留下記錄
確定感染,一般會建議採用冷凍治療,約1~2週做一次
小疣體建議至少做2次,大型一點的疣體(直徑約0.5~0.8cm)起碼要做個3~4次
想要少做幾次,做冷凍的時候強度要夠
有些治療師,液態氮噴槍點放點放,噴個3次就算完成,每次看了都讓我搖頭
要做的到位,噴槍一次最好是噴1~1.5秒,才有足夠的強度深入皮膚裡面,重複噴個4~5次
治療的時候,建議是先用油性筆把病灶標明
然後自備個牙籤或牙線棒,直接向治療師指明須要治療的疣體
以免翻來覆去找病灶,脫著褲子在女治療師面前撥來撥去,其實有點尷尬
這樣做起治療迅速又確實,而且不會漏做,一旦漏做就意味了你得多跑兩趟診所
(一次治療,一次複診)
疣的周圍也要做治療,這是很容易忽略的地方,往往疣好了,但周圍又冒出來
治療最讓一般人難受的不是疼痛,冷凍治療其實不太痛,除非是做到超高強度
才有可能腫的跟1元硬幣一樣大,這種才真的會讓人痛到不想走路
最讓人煎熬的就是反覆治療、複診、復發、治療、複診
對此也只能夠耐心以對,因為HPV不是什麼絕症,也不是無法可治
最糟糕就是復發之後乾脆自暴自棄
或是擦藥不確實,常會漏擦,或是看到病灶消失就立刻停藥
對於有經驗的病患,復發初期其實可以居家治療,不一定要跑醫院
要消除疣體可使用含有 Podophyllotoxin 成分的藥膏
為了避免廣告嫌疑,請自行詢問醫生或上網查詢
這類的藥膏原理是抑制病毒感染的細胞進行有絲分裂
一個療程是一週擦3次,休息4天
通常比較小的病灶,進行兩次療程即可消除
第一次療程做完,可能疣體還是一樣沒改變,請耐心再進行1~2次療程
正常情況下疣體會慢慢變小,然後消失,為了保險起見,可多做一次療程
如果疣太大的話,光擦藥是很難消除,還是以冷凍等物理方式消除較實際
但這只是治標,不是治本
治本之道是讓身體免疫系統自行偵測出HPV病毒感染細胞
目前主流方法是使用含有 imiquimod 成分的藥膏
但這個方法須要較長的療程,不建議當做主要的療法
最好是先破壞疣體,然後再施以 imiquimod 培養免疫系統抵抗力
(含有 imiquimod 的藥,原廠售價很貴,一小小包250公絲要價400元左右
經濟能力無法負擔的人,可考慮使用學名藥,一大條約250有找
相關藥品請自行詢問醫生或上網查,想查哪裡買,問廠商業務哪裡有鋪貨最快
但還是建議在醫生指示下使用)
坊間有所謂的口服增強HPV抵抗力的藥
雖然部分醫生認為根據國外文獻指出,該方法確實有一定的效力
相關的藥物要持續吃的話,也是不小的開支,對此筆者是持保留態度
口服藥物或許可增加免疫系統抵抗力
但已經長到一定程度的疣,光吃藥是沒用的
最後總結一下,懷疑是否感染的,請去做篩檢
確定沒感染的,可自費注射疫苗(數萬元),或是注意性行為安全
已經感染的,請務必有耐心,可採用物理治療、免疫調節法等多管齊下治療
這不是什麼絕症,也不是世界末日,最糟糕就是鴕鳥心態、消極面對
等到DNA檢測不出病毒,事實上就是痊癒了
ps.請勿來信要求診療,請自行至皮膚科掛號
筆者是無照密醫,診療費很貴的
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